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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.09 15:29:00 -
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I seriously think Cyvok should hire butter dog as a expert in the art of warfare.
He seems to be able to know exactly what the BoB leadership are thinking, what we are doing wrong, why we are failing and why we will never win.
I think these would be useful to Cyvok in his war against us.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.10 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:35:10 Bring back Halseth!
All is forgotten!
The crazy levels of paranoia in ASCN high command is going to split them wide apart faster than anything we could do or say.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.10 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:42:39
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Xavier Cardde in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory.
we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war.
And here layeth a big part of why you will lose: Because you don't think you can win.
We have no doubt in our minds whatsoever, we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious. It is merely a question of time.
You will what? You havent stated ANY objectives, so how can you measure success?
Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership by which we can measure success.
Yet again your posting is amusing to me.
Thanks, dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.10 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:48:54
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: DB Preacher
Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership.
Yet again your posting is amusing to me.
Thanks, dbp
I understand perfectly that you will not wish to state your objectives.
However, I find it amusing that your forum warriors seem to hint at nothing less than the destruction of ASCN. They talk about 'win' and 'lose' in absolute terms.
This is an easy thing to do without clearly stated goals, and so only serves to make your forum warriors look foolish and short-sighted.
What was your point here?
Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted?
Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread?
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.10 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 14:06:13
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: DB Preacher
What was your point here?
Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted?
Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread?
dbp
I was pointing out that as you cannot measure victory if you have no stated goals, its a rather pointless statement to make.
Firstly, I wasn't asking about what you posted initially. I was asking what the point of your second post was.
Considering you just called our members foolish and short-sighted, you are very quick to label me a troll.
Secondly,
You cannot measure victory because you do not know our goals and objectives.
We can measure victory because we know our goals and objectives.
The only (and I quote you on this) "pointless statement" was yours attempting to tell one of the leaders of BoB that they cannot measure victory if they have stated no goals.
We certainly can measure victory, it is you who cannot measure our victory but since you have not been asked to measure our victory I don't think that is a problem.
If you wish to argue semantics with me then I can assure you that there will be a simple measure of victory on this point and it will not be you who is standing on the side that is singing ABBA's "The Winner Takes It All" again.
Thanks, dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.10 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 18:40:24
Originally by: welsh wizard
Would someone from BoB care to give explanations as to why they think this information is being spread among the ASCN ranks? I'm interested in your side of the story.
(lukec answered the rest above)
Well, I dunno Welsh if you were around during the PA then FA wars that we fought but quite simply there seems to be two types of leader in Eve.
There are the guys like the BoB CEO's, Darth, ShinRa, Eddz, etc etc who lead their corps from the front.
Then there are the guys like Halseth, Tornsoul, remedial, Cyvok etc who led from the back.
One type of leader will give thier members free will to speak when they want because they know that whatever they say it can be backed up ingame.
The other type of leader needs to ban their members from talking for fear of pulling the rest of Eve onto their heads.
This next point is the crunch of the matter however.
One of those leaders only needs to say "gg" to their fighters every so often.
The other type needs to wax lyrically with false progaganda in a vain effort to make his troops go out to the slaughter knowing full well that they will get slaughtered.
They will try anything to keep the alliance together long enough to see off the enemy but invariably will fail because the alliance members simply do not see them enough on the field leading fleets and bringing victories where it matters.
You can lie to a member of an alliance for as long as you want but the beauty about the EvE-O forums, fraps, killboards etc is that they can always go find out for themselves the truth.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:09:00 -
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Does that mean Butter Dog is an alt then?
Because if it does you are simply not allowed to post on these forums as per the alts rule.
I'll make sure our GM's and Dev's look into this immediately.
Thanks for bringing that to my notice.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.12 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested.
Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war.
This is a funny comment.
I've done nothing since the map began except report exactly what is happening whether it be good or bad for BoB. From the taking over of Venal to the loss of Outer Ring and the list goes on and on and on.
The ASCN report I made was correct at the time, even stating that ps shouldn't have been contested which it had been accidentally. Of course the ASCN dudes ignored my post and then spilled another page of OMG BIAS against the map reporter without justification.
Furthermore, at no point has your elected delegate put forward factual evidence in tardy fashion about what is actually happening in the war.
If I didn't know better I'd say that he was simply not playing the game and listening to rumours of what ASCN are supposed to be doing instead of what is actually happening in the war.
Basically, if you want the map to be reported correctly then get someone to report the actual happenings in this war. If that is done then I'll happily back up their report providing I agree with the situation.
But don't even begin to think about trying to do as every other alliance seems to do when they are losing territory which is flame and abuse the map reporter for reporting with the information backed up with Killboard, Fraps, ingame Sov facts he is given by us.
Thanks, dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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